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[22:37:24] <selimcan> <firespeaker> need to upgrade my firmware. bbiam

[22:37:34] <selimcan> didn't know firespeaker was a bionic

[22:39:48] <fotonzade> selimcan, they're slowly replacing all americans actually

[22:41:23] <selimcan> ola bilir

(18:48:18) jonathan: a lot of Mongol stuff in China is hand-written

(18:48:30) Фрэн: or in CLSEFJSGHXDHT

(18:48:31) Фрэн: script

(23:34:45) vigneshv: 140 px :D

(23:34:54) firespeaker: vigneshv: I can think of words longer than that

(23:35:01) firespeaker: I have some 153px words

(23:35:17) sushain: (10:35:00 PM) firespeaker: I have some 153px words <- wait, was that random?

(23:35:30) sushain: or do you actually have a 153px word

(23:35:30) firespeaker: i.e., not a good measure of word-length ;)

(23:35:33) sushain: LOL

(23:35:34) sushain: ok

(23:35:35) vigneshv: ill change

(23:35:40) firespeaker: point made? ;)

(01:51:13) sushain: .g xkcd workflow

(01:51:13) begiak: sushain: http://xkcd.com/1172/

(01:51:18) sushain: google is magic

(01:51:26) firespeaker: so is begiak

(01:51:38) sushain: begiak is like a grumpy old wizard

(01:51:48) sushain: sometimes it doesn't even try

[14:28] <Unhammer> %ap Guovdageainnu ruskabiillas čuožžu "muitte sirret doabbariid!"

[14:28] <Brainstorm> Unhammer: Apertium has no mode 'se-en'

[14:28] <Unhammer> Brainstorm, use sme-nob!

[14:28] <Unhammer> :)

[14:29] <jonorthwash> .t Guovdageainnu ruskabiillas čuožžu "muitte sirret doabbariid!" sme-nob

[14:29] <begiak> Sorry, the apertium API gave HTTP error 451: Not supported pair ☹

[14:29] <Unhammer> jonorthwash, %ap should autodetect source lang and translate iiuc

[14:29] <jonorthwash> Unhammer: oooh neat

[14:29] <jonorthwash> Unhammer: how does it guess destination language? ;)

(00:36:40) crawfora: the "read more" page does actually explain that the use of easily-disabled javascript was deliberate; they want to make it possible for people to access the site in emergencies

(00:36:59) firespeaker: crawfora: hmm, wikipedia for emergencies?

(00:37:06) jarrettwold2: someone on a cell phone looking up medical information

(00:37:07) twb: crawfora: like "oops I stabbed a guy now how do I do first aid... ask wikipedia"

(00:37:15) ***TomyLobo searches "what is the number of 911?"

(00:37:16) jarrettwold2: twb: that's how it is now :)

(00:37:18) crawfora: twb: I'm sure it happens

(00:37:30) firespeaker: uhm

(00:37:36) vry: "what color is blood?!? quickly, open wikipedia"

(00:37:43) firespeaker: and they're going to what, figure out how to disable the javascript?

(00:37:52) firespeaker: on their blackberry

(18:05:32) zfe: also tomorrow i'm getting on a boat

(18:05:38) zfe: and a turk will be driving

(18:05:43) zfe: which feels extremely wrong

(18:05:56) zfe: like i get invited by spectie and he cooks me spaghetti

(18:06:13) zfe: or i don't know, vietnam invading usa

(18:06:19) zfe: it really looks upside down

(18:06:27) zfe: a turk and an italian on a boat

(18:06:30) zfe: and the turk is driving

(20:40:31) kesuari: and take a guess how easy it is to search for information on something called "by" with relation to something called "r"

(18:17:11) kesuari: i'm gonna try something different

(18:17:25) kesuari: (i.e. find a comp with spss)

(18:24:08) kesuari: i found one!

(18:24:15) kesuari: it does what all good commercial softwar does:

(18:24:17) kesuari: crashed on startup

(12:17pm May 5) Michael:
sudo stop --event=rain --location=seattle --reason="it's amost summer for crissakes"

(12:18pm May 5) Michael:
it worked! sorta.

(6:14pm May 6) [me]:
export LOCATION="Seattle";
configure --force;
sudo make rain;

hah! try and stop that!

(6:49pm May 6) Michael:
dude, wtf, it's raining again.
sudo killall make
sudo userdel -f Jonathan

(7:22pm May 6) [me]:
agh, it's starting up again here now..

mv /indiana/rain /seattle/
chmod a-rw /seattle/rain
chown Jonathan /seattle/rain

(Okay, I don't get the full points, because I didn't show the roothack I used to get my account back.)

(15:29:05) kesuari: it referred to using powerpoint on a mac

(15:29:20) kesuari: *"it"

(15:29:47) kesuari: (ironically, i'm currently reading a paper about pronoun resolution)

(22:00:27) [me]: in the movie The Negotiator, Samuel L. Jackson talks on a cordless phone after they turn the power off

(22:00:35) [me]: they, like, don't even try

(22:00:42) [me]: not when Samuel L. Jackson is acting

(16:45:11) cassowary: he was being a prick and thought putting a smiley on would make him not a prick

(16:45:19) [me]: yeah

(16:45:22) [me]: people do that a lot

(16:45:27) [me]: I know people who do that irl

(16:45:46) cassowary: what, they say "you're an idiot colon closing bracket"?

(16:55:43) [me]: speaking of which, the dotted line that's normally on buttons and other non-entry things to show focus (very useful if you're using tab instead of the mouse) have recently stopped dispalying at all for me

(16:56:10) [me]: mostly on buttons

(16:56:16) [me]: at least that's where it bothers me the most

(16:59:13) thecartographers: hm, that sounds bad

(16:59:31) [me]: well, it's not bad in that it breaks anything really

(16:59:36) thecartographers: i'm sure it's been discussed ad nauseum in the past, and everyone knows it's important

(16:59:38) [me]: it just makes me feel like I'm drunk when doing things

(16:59:46) thecartographers: it breaks thinsg for people who can't use mice...

(16:59:50) [me]: true

(17:00:00) [me]: or who just don't :-P

(17:02:08) thecartographers: yeah but gnome people, who are in charge of gtk for better or worse

(17:02:14) thecartographers: don't care about what you want, jsut what you can do

(17:02:34) thecartographers: if you say "i can't use the mouse" then they accomodate: if you say "i won't use the mouse" then they say "use kde"

(17:03:31) thecartographers: and then you say "now i've tried using kde, but i've gone blind from the hideous sight. can you accomodate me?" and they'll say "yes, but you can still use your hands, so you only get a text-to-speech engine system, but no outlines on the buttons"

(18:19:44) jonathan: we'll probably have 1TB flash drives in a couple years

(18:19:56) jonathan: but 1PB is still quite a ways off I think

(18:21:40) T. A. McLeay: hm maybe

(18:21:51) T. A. McLeay: what'd you do with so much storage anyway? :)

(18:22:52) jonathan: put star trek on it

(18:22:58) jonathan: and I mean all of it

(18:23:25) jonathan: well, maybe not Voyager

(17:59:56) kesuari: reading 19th century writing is fun

(18:00:02) kesuari: books were often basically blogs :)

(13:08:38) [me]: yeah, I know; GPG's on my list of things to get going

(13:08:56) [me]: I need to get gmail + IMAP working in balsa first though

(13:09:20) crculver: I didn't know Balsa was still around.

(13:09:47) crculver: But you can install the FireGPG extension for Firefox which would allow you to encrypt any text you enter on e.g. GMail's web interface.

(13:09:57) [me]: I don't use firefox

(13:10:09) crculver: What do you use then?

(13:10:15) [me]: galeon

(13:10:30) crculver: Wait, am I talking to you in 2003 through a wormhole?

(23:16:35) [my father]: it is normal convention, however. So laTex doesn't know what it is doing

(23:17:04) [my father]: what the hell do you want with something that uses louisiana and texas as its call name

(19:14:46) T. A. McLeay: en franczais

(19:15:14) T. A. McLeay: (my compose key and altgr key on this keyboard are switched, and it's easier to use a z and this explanation than it is to cope with switched keys)

(14:04:28) Michaela: but the central asian/tajik dating trick i learned is that the guys just gradually start attaching pictures of flowers to emails and see how the girl reacts

(11:18:41) kesuari: there's a corner of hell where people write Microsoft Office-style suites in TeX

(23:13:38) Colum: that friend of mine kept saying that "they are trying. English isn't their first language!" But you don't try it on your merchandise!

(17:14:36) [me]: I wonder if Turkish F-type keyboards are related to Turkish F-type prisons

(17:14:49) kesuari: ? i think the F comes from first letter

(17:14:54) [me]: oh

(17:15:07) [me]: what about the prisons?

(17:15:17) kesuari: they probably don't have any keys

(15:18:40) Michaela: so what i said while i was offline was...

(15:20:14) Michaela has signed off.

(10:03:38) Michael: people think that the internet is the closed system of pipes, but it's more like mail-carriers all running around, out in the open

(23:05:15) Jóhann: you are a walking wikipedia :D

(00:15:30) Michael: i don't know what wp is

(00:15:47) Michael: ohh

(00:15:50) Michael: wikipedia

(00:16:21) Michael: i was like, word perfect? why would anyone rely on that. it's so 199-never

(01:20:44) Michael: yeah... programming interviews are fun dude. you should try it

(13:35:56) [me]: oh man teleportation would solve so many problems wouldn't it

(13:36:04) [me]: I'm only just starting to see the potential

(13:36:11) Michael: well it would probably create more problems than it would solve

(13:36:20) [me]: oh?

(13:37:33) Michael: well... obviously security would have to be completely rethought.. or i guess it would just be more like network security

(13:38:09) Michael: i mean, can you imagine? illegal immigration would turn into like a DoS attack

(03:19:15) [me]: I like tech support to know more than I do

(03:19:27) [me]: instead it's just this number I call to try to convince to flip a switch for me

(20:44:48) Michael: man.. that'll suck when computational linguists have to start getting AI subjects approval

(20:45:21) Michael: "I didn't mean to unplug my computer!! honest!"

(16:05:58) [me]: sometimes people format them like an e-mail, and it's really strange

(16:06:18) [me]: "Hey X,

What's up? I had fun last weekend. See you around.

Your friend,
Y"

(16:06:21) [me]: and it's like wtf?

(16:06:30) [me]: it should be "Yo, had fun last weekend. Catch you later."

(16:07:02) kesuari: people write emails like that?

(16:07:20) kesuari: i thought i was the only person who used capital letters any more

(12:59:33) kesuari: god didn't invent circumstances for remembering, he invented them for happening

(03:42:49) kesuari: nothing backs up like chiselling a great big stone

(03:43:57) kesuari: i sometimes reckon i should do that: go carving runes somewhere in the bush

(03:44:55) kesuari: not runes per se; i mean some form of phonetic alphabet that looks like runes and is similar enough to the latin alphabet or germanic runes to be decryptable

(03:45:17) kesuari: or maybe i'll do it a bit less phonetic just to give the future linguists a bit of fun

(03:45:43) kesuari: can't be too trivial or else i'll be the Orrm of the 21st century

(03:26:05) kesuari: in a thousand years, when english has divided into many languages and tehy've all had spelling reforms, they'll divise a "standardised spelling" for classical english

(03:26:52) kesuari: because the current spelling will been seen as "irregular" and "hard to read", "a poor guide to pronunciation" &c. they will probably also add diacritics so we can tell which vowels are long and which are short, which e's are silent and which are pronounced etc.

(03:27:09) kesuari: much like we do to old english

(03:27:33) kesuari: only, for a non-linguist of the 20th/21st centuries, it'll be hard to read because we don't expect it

(03:29:08) kesuari: and because no-one can seriously expect any of our recordings to last until then and because linguistics texts will largely have been lost to time as they weren't reproduced enough, people will have debates about quite how various aspects were pronounced

(03:30:10) kesuari: they'll reconstruct a language that includes the "bath/trap" split, f'instance

(03:30:24) kesuari: and have trouble reconciling it with the other germanic languagse

(03:32:45) kesuari: but, of course, english retained *þ and *w so it's obviously conservative: it must've been that german and even icelandic lost the original æ/ɑ distinction

[wine keeps causing X to crash]

(03:26:24) [me]: wine sucks

(03:37:21) kesuari: well, at least it's emulating windows well

(01:33:38) Jade Solitude: You know you spend too much time on Wikipedia when you look for the "mark this edit as minor" button when editing ID3 tags . . .

(23:37:38) [me]:

(23:36:42) Jade Solitude: I love free software

(23:36:51) Jade Solitude: But I love some propriety software, too

(23:36:51) Jade Solitude: =þ

(23:37:02) Jade Solitude: I love Winamp, for example

(23:38:38) kesuari: hah! people still use winamp. how cute. you should cage him, etc.

(23:27:50) kesuari: (also, it's annoying for people on dialup, because it makes it take much longer to download)

(23:28:00) kesuari: (but that's largely no longer a concern in the west)

(23:28:28) [me]: I'm actually talking to someone who's on dial-up right now

(23:28:53) kesuari: ooh wow, you should cage her and put her in the zoo with that windows friend of yours who uses gaim

(05:54:49) kesuari: i was saying it was evidence i was right, just saying it was what some sourte said

(05:55:00) [me]: sourte?

(05:55:04) kesuari: source

(05:55:08) [me]: oh :-P

(05:55:22) [me]: it processed semantically something like "bloke" would've in that context :-P

(05:55:49) kesuari: yeah, well, this is the internet so it might as well have been some bloke

(02:13:14) kesuari: who who knows what xml and tex is doesn’t know what syntax is?

(03:14) cassowary: when the nouveau drivers are released, and i can get video out happening, i’ll plug my MS mouse back into my imac, and have an imac with a dell screen, a sun keyboard, and a microsoft mouse running linux. that will be fun :)

(03:28:52) [me]: mkay, yeah, I need to pack

(03:29:03) Derek: psh

(03:29:04) Derek: whatever

(03:29:10) Derek: just throw it all in a ball

(03:29:14) Derek: duct tape it up

(03:29:19) Derek: and roll it on the plane

(03:29:30) Derek: if you tell them its a bomb, they work faster you know

(02:57:36) kesuari: if there’s a computer nearby, you could email yourself to it, and fix it now... :)

(02:58:36) kesuari: (one of these days, someone’s going to invent a device that can email solid objects instantly, and that joke won’t be funny anymore)

(02:55:01) [me]: and I'm maxing out the network capabilities of my server

(02:55:26) [me]: between me and it is an 802.11g connection, a router, and a 100Mbps connection

(02:56:05) [Tristan]: not bad.

(02:56:14) [Tristan]: between me and it is half the world

01:34:57 [Tristan]: there's a windows-user who uses gaim?

01:35:06 [Tristan]: i didn't realise such things existed!

01:35:16 [Tristan]: you should capture him and put him in a zoo!

01:35:53 [Tristan]: or stuff him and put him in a museum!

05:43:30 [me]: I'm matching for a timestamp

05:43:40 [me]: since people don't generally say those

05:43:47 [me]: and all the im quotes have them

05:43:48 [Tristan]: i say them all the time

05:43:52 [Tristan]: every time i'm talking, i say them

05:44:08 [me]: oh?

05:44:26 [Tristan]: yes: "bracket oh-oh colon four-four colon twenty-three close bracket tristan colon: i do it all the time"

05:44:58 [me]: hence it being for ims

05:45:10 [me]: and you don't say that

05:45:15 [Tristan]: are you sure?

05:45:20 [Tristan]: have you ever heard me speaking?

05:45:49 [me]: actually, yes, but not conversationally

05:46:05 [me]: though granted you coulda stripped those out of the the recordings I've heard

05:46:10 [Tristan]: yeah, i did

05:46:30 [Tristan]: 'cos it's a bit weird, admittedly

05:46:39 [Tristan]: i didn't want to interfere with whatever eles you're doing

04:15:26 qatharsis: The Orkhon script is pretty strange. "Runiform" yet also "hellenoid" letters interspersed with emoticons.

(15:52:15) [me]: well that's sent

(15:52:21) [me]: or it's in the quad's outgoing mail

(16:02:45) Adam Batkin: Email not snail mail?

(16:02:54) [me]: snail

(16:03:03) Adam Batkin: Oh thats what you mean by quad's outgoing mail

(16:03:08) [me]: yeah =P

(16:03:23) Adam Batkin: I was wondering why in the world there would be an SMTP server for outgoing mail for your quad

(16:03:29) Adam Batkin: And why it would queue it