(16:55:43) [me]: speaking of which, the dotted line that's normally on buttons and other non-entry things to show focus (very useful if you're using tab instead of the mouse) have recently stopped dispalying at all for me
(16:56:10) [me]: mostly on buttons
(16:56:16) [me]: at least that's where it bothers me the most
(16:59:13) thecartographers: hm, that sounds bad
(16:59:31) [me]: well, it's not bad in that it breaks anything really
(16:59:36) thecartographers: i'm sure it's been discussed ad nauseum in the past, and everyone knows it's important
(16:59:38) [me]: it just makes me feel like I'm drunk when doing things
(16:59:46) thecartographers: it breaks thinsg for people who can't use mice...
(16:59:50) [me]: true
(17:00:00) [me]: or who just don't :-P
(17:02:08) thecartographers: yeah but gnome people, who are in charge of gtk for better or worse
(17:02:14) thecartographers: don't care about what you want, jsut what you can do
(17:02:34) thecartographers: if you say "i can't use the mouse" then they accomodate: if you say "i won't use the mouse" then they say "use kde"
(17:03:31) thecartographers: and then you say "now i've tried using kde, but i've gone blind from the hideous sight. can you accomodate me?" and they'll say "yes, but you can still use your hands, so you only get a text-to-speech engine system, but no outlines on the buttons"