"I forget if oygn is spelled with an ayin or not."
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[edit] added: 7 February 2021
"You know what they say—everyone has their own o-pinyin about how to transliterate Chinese."
[edit] added: 7 February 2021
(12:56:11) jonathan: this rewording is very minor but does seem to get rid of one of the issues at least
(12:56:39) jonathan: I'm not positive, though; I have to force myself to misunderstand my own thoughts to even evaluate whether it's maybe fixed :(
(12:56:53) Фрэн: well, i can help with that
[edit] added: 6 May 2017
(18:48:18) jonathan: a lot of Mongol stuff in China is hand-written
(18:48:30) Фрэн: or in CLSEFJSGHXDHT
(18:48:31) Фрэн: script
[edit] added: 7 February 2021
(20:41:59) firespeaker: ﺎﺍ
(20:42:06) firespeaker: these are the forms of aleph in uyghur
(20:42:22) firespeaker: no exceptions
(20:42:23) begiak: NO EXCEPTIONS, firespeaker!
(20:42:34) firespeaker: except for this ﻻ
(20:42:43) firespeaker: and ﻼ
(20:43:20) firespeaker: (the easiest way for me to think of exceptions at this point is to say there aren't any)
[edit] added: 7 February 2021
(19:05:24) spectie: you could remove the 'in langs'
(19:05:31) spectie: what else would TR vowel systems be identified in?
(19:05:32) spectie: buckets?
(19:05:50) spectie: insurgent groups/
(19:06:01) spectie: water supply?
[edit] added: 22 June 2014
(20:59:11) spectie: weFFIOJEoiweg;oiejg
(21:06:20) spectie: oijoij
(21:09:23) sushain: er
(21:09:24) sushain: hi spectie
(21:09:27) sushain: are you ok?
(21:21:17) spiegelian: sushain, it's a code, you have to break it
(21:45:07) sushain: spiegelian: hmmm
(21:46:07) sushain: 'weFFIOJEoiweg = went to the bar. oiejg = had some beer. oijoij = going to bed now
[edit] added: 4 June 2014
(16:19:48) Unhammer: "a basic skill to be learned alongside the three R’s"
(16:19:51) Unhammer: R's?
(16:19:56) firespeaker: .wik Three Rs
(16:19:57) begiak: "The three Rs (as in the letter R)[1] refers to the foundations of a basic skills-orientated education program within schools: reading, writing and arithmetic" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_three_Rs
(16:20:04) Unhammer: so not r-project
(16:20:07) Unhammer: damn
[edit] added: 2 February 2013
I feel like asking linguists to also be not-racist, not-clueless, and good prose stylists shouldn't be too much to ask. But apparently...
[edit] added: 6 December 2012
(13:40:56) spectre: there is a special place in hell
(13:41:04) spectre: for linguists who design orthographies with the ' character
(13:41:53) spectre: (a) letters, (b) punctuation
(13:41:58) spectre: and ne'er the twain shall meet
[edit] added: 30 May 2010
(13:44:30) jonorthwash: anyway, the Kyrgyz side of the invitation's going to be very different
(13:44:42) Aaron B: make sure to put the same date ;)
[edit] added: 21 October 2009
(04:31:14) kesuari: i could've sworn that on the heirarchy of cool letters, ø was way higher than ö
[edit] added: 11 August 2009
(20:06:04) kesuari: i wish someone would work out a universal definition of word, and make english orthography agree with it
[edit] added: 23 January 2009
(17:59:56) kesuari: reading 19th century writing is fun
(18:00:02) kesuari: books were often basically blogs :)
[edit] added: 30 May 2008
(11:48:40) kesuari: they mean you'll live with god (or notwith god) forever
(11:49:00) kesuari: heh, without means notwith. i didn't need to make the word up
[edit] added: 19 May 2008
(19:23:46) [me]: stressed and unstressed clitics are used that way
(19:23:53) [me]: at least in AmE
(19:24:11) kesuari: well yeah, they're used like that here too --- but they shouldn't be
...
(19:24:29) [me]: now you're just being a perscriptivist
(19:24:50) kesuari: of course i am: i'm advocating spelling reform
[edit] added: 17 May 2008
(17:23:23) [me]: "More data would have to be gathered to determine what the underlying cause of these dichotomies is"
(17:23:37) [me]: (is there anything you'd change with that?)
(17:24:31) kesuari: (yes, of course i would; i find academic written language and the spoken language that is essentially its read version incredibly hard to understand)
(17:24:49) kesuari: (but unfortunately making it just normal english wouldn't be thesis-like enough)
(17:24:50) syljwesandhr: (so what would you change?)
(17:25:11) kesuari: "if we want to work out what actually causing these differences, we'll have to get more data"
[edit] added: 16 May 2008
(13:27:47) kesuari: i don't entirely no
(13:28:01) Jonor Thwash: you don't entirely no what? ;)
(13:28:40) kesuari: i don't entirely no why we maintain this farce of an orthographical system
[edit] added: 1 May 2008
(14:15:48) [me]: every time I think back to how I thought about things in high school, central asia makes a lot more sense
(14:15:56) [me]: very provincial and uninformed about things
(14:16:12) Michaela: heh
(14:16:55) Michaela: you know, it's true--even thinking about things like the way people used to write in middle/high school--the quality of their writing makes a lot more sense
(14:17:45) Michaela: i remember telling my mom, "It's like, there's no one here that knows how to think outside the box." she said, "Honey, they don't even know that there is a box."
[edit] added: 11 April 2008
(23:21:17) Michael: i have to actually start writing the journal paper version of my thesis soon
(23:21:33) Michael: before i forget what i did
[edit] added: 15 January 2008
(22:36:56) Rianna: well...i mean, look at our orthography...it's weird but we know what to say
[edit] added: 17 December 2007
(16:05:58) [me]: sometimes people format them like an e-mail, and it's really strange
(16:06:18) [me]: "Hey X,
What's up? I had fun last weekend. See you around.
Your friend,
Y"
(16:06:21) [me]: and it's like wtf?
(16:06:30) [me]: it should be "Yo, had fun last weekend. Catch you later."
(16:07:02) kesuari: people write emails like that?
(16:07:20) kesuari: i thought i was the only person who used capital letters any more
[edit] added: 6 November 2007
"If they wanted it to be pronounced [latkəz], they should've spelled it ‘lutkers’."
[edit] added: 1 August 2007
(03:42:49) kesuari: nothing backs up like chiselling a great big stone
(03:43:57) kesuari: i sometimes reckon i should do that: go carving runes somewhere in the bush
(03:44:55) kesuari: not runes per se; i mean some form of phonetic alphabet that looks like runes and is similar enough to the latin alphabet or germanic runes to be decryptable
(03:45:17) kesuari: or maybe i'll do it a bit less phonetic just to give the future linguists a bit of fun
(03:45:43) kesuari: can't be too trivial or else i'll be the Orrm of the 21st century
[edit] added: 12 July 2007
Derek: "I think we should write in runes, and the British should write in Roman."
Jonathan: "What about the Australians?"
Derek: "… They can write in kanji."
[edit] added: 30 April 2007
(03:59:35) kesuari: how many ways does greek have of writing /i/!
(03:59:53) kesuari: it’s like the saw english "ough" and thought "hey, we can do that ... in reverse"
[edit] added: 11 April 2007
Jonathan: "Maybe they just think that */p/ turned to /b/ in Germanic. But it only went half way."
Derek: "Yeah, that's how they got þorn."
[edit] added: 29 March 2007
Jonathan: "My favourite translation tool on the internet is to look something up on wikipedia in the source language, and then click the link to the article in the destination language."
Joyce: "Oh yeah, I only ever did that to look up how Star Trek was written in katakana."
[edit] added: 13 January 2007
[Jonathan shows Aaron a book on Qaraqalpaq written in French]
Aaron: "This orthography is.. what?"
me: "Inconsistent."
[edit] added: 17 October 2006
Richard: "They did a spelling reform and got rid of all those extra circonflexes."
Jonathan: "Really? Did it apply to Canadian French?"
Richard: "Nothing applies to Canadian French."
[edit] added: 2 June 2006
Jonathan: "You can write s/he."
Jurgen: "And if you add the neuter pronoun, you get a funny sort of word—I'm not going to say it."
[edit] added: 31 May 2006
"I'm just going to write it, because it's easier than spelling it."
[edit] added: 27 May 2006
23:39:17 amosblock: english has a crap shoot, not an orthography :P
[edit] added: 23 February 2006
05:23:50 [me]: (I'm rather fond of pre-revolution Russian. It's almost proto-eastern slavic)
05:24:29 [Tristan]: yeah, well just wait till the english languages break up, our spelling will be proto-english :)
[edit] added: 20 December 2005
04:15:26 qatharsis: The Orkhon script is pretty strange. "Runiform" yet also "hellenoid" letters interspersed with emoticons.
[edit] added: 13 September 2004
"In kindergarten they fed us all these three letter words. `Cat, dog', yes, get over it. And this went on for two years. `The cat craps on the rug.' Those are all three and four letter words!"
[edit] added: 2 February 2004
(04:17:24) Kesuari: o ... kay... i have come to the conclusion that you, sir, are insane, and forget the difference between yourself and the rest of the world :)
[edit] added: 30 July 2003
(13:11:20) Qatharsis: Your languages suffer from inbreeding, it seems.
(13:12:55) [me]: inbreeding?
(13:14:59) Qatharsis: They're all each other's brother's offspring, and the replicative deficiencies show.
(13:58:39) [me]: there's no inbreeding in the Tēlvo languages
(13:58:47) [me]: no more so than there are in any other language
(13:59:06) Qatharsis: They just look like contorted copies of each other. =P
(13:59:26) Qatharsis: And they develop pathological spelling freakages.
(14:00:07) [me]: what??
(14:00:37) Qatharsis: I mean, accented l? Hello?
[edit] added: 22 July 2003
(03:43:48) Casoar: apparently there is no suprise
(03:43:50) Casoar: surprise.
(03:44:04) Casoar: stupid silent r. silent ahs shouldn't be spelt
(03:44:20) [me]: then don't spell them :)
(03:44:33) Casoar: okay, i won't then :)
(03:45:15) Casoar: if i can remembe not to spell them. i'll probly foget half the time though. unless the word in question is suprise, when i won't so much foget not to foget as not foget to remembe
(03:46:40) [me]: what??
[edit] added: 9 June 2003
(01:58:21) [Shreyas]: played?
(01:58:48) [me]: by Natlihah
(01:58:58) [me]: she just wants to distill her guilt
(01:59:19) [me]: I don't think she really cares about them that much
(01:59:40) [me]: I'm not sure if this actually results in anything bad down the road
(01:59:43) [me]: but I suspect it will
(01:59:47) [Shreyas]: that's deeply comforting
(02:00:17) [Shreyas]: on an unrelated note, i just realized that an inertialess spaceship could be fabulously agile
(02:00:45) [me]: rofl, I suppose so
(02:00:50) [me]: good luck designing one
(02:01:19) [Shreyas]: i'll put it on the "rpgs to write" list
(02:01:41) [Shreyas]: right after the one about people who can see into the future as if it's just another spatial dimension
(02:01:52) [me]: heh
(02:04:06) [Shreyas]: it's got a lot of dangerous metaphysics behind it, actually. i'm imagining that futeresight is analogous to depth perception: it takes information you have and derives data from it, via some unconscious, hypercompetent capacity
(02:05:08) [Shreyas]: unfortunately for our prophets, futuresight has to work on their knowledge of things, so they can see any appreciable distance only in familiar situations populated by familiar things
(02:05:50) [Shreyas]: and anytime something unexpected happens, the prophetic capacity has to readjust
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(00:05:32) firespeaker: I wrote some last night
(00:05:44) firespeaker: added to the story I've been writing. also edited it considerably
(00:05:48) ¡Luz! Je viens du ciel et les étoiles entre elles / ne parlent que de toi...: what langue?
(00:06:11) firespeaker: what langue do you think? it's a story that may become an epic...
(00:06:19) firespeaker: It's in Tjelwu of course!
(00:06:23) firespeaker: j/k.. English =P