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(03:31:47) spectre: i don't like having the negative morpheme in different places

(03:31:56) firespeaker: but this is Turkic

(18:05:32) zfe: also tomorrow i'm getting on a boat

(18:05:38) zfe: and a turk will be driving

(18:05:43) zfe: which feels extremely wrong

(18:05:56) zfe: like i get invited by spectie and he cooks me spaghetti

(18:06:13) zfe: or i don't know, vietnam invading usa

(18:06:19) zfe: it really looks upside down

(18:06:27) zfe: a turk and an italian on a boat

(18:06:30) zfe: and the turk is driving

(18:42:02) spectie: Flammie, did you get the abstract in on time ?

(18:43:42) Flammie: I did, though it was kindof short and wishywashy

(18:43:52) spectie: you should have seen mine and firespeaker's

(18:44:50) firespeaker: we didn't even read ours

(18:44:52) spectie: yeah

(18:45:11) firespeaker: and I think it just sounds like a bunch of disconnected facts about Kyrgyz morphology

(18:45:19) firespeaker: and phonology

(18:45:33) firespeaker: which is basically what talking to me sounds like I guess

(10:55:17) spectie: it's saturday

(10:55:29) spectie: i am permitted to eat breakfast of blinnchiki and nutella after 4pm

(03:08:57) firespeaker: it's like there's 3 or 4 different encodings being used here

(03:09:01) spectie: :(((((((((((

(03:09:08) spectie: this is my multi-encoding file face

(16:44:52) spectie: :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

(16:45:00) spectie: ^-- this is my non-crazy turkologist deficit face

(16:45:08) spectie: it looks like my multiple-encoding file face

(03:10:38) spectie: i've done it before with a russian girl

(03:10:41) spectie: so i know the principles

(17:30:52) spectie: you know, ((we) = you) could write a better bashkir grammar than the one in TTL

(17:30:55) spectie: in a week

(17:31:31) firespeaker: I'm aware, but I don't know bashqort

(17:31:47) spectie: neither do the people writing the grammar!

(19:14:27) firespeaker: "10 or 20 most important languages" :(

(19:14:30) spectie: yeah D:

(19:14:33) spectie: borrrrrrrrrrrring

(19:14:36) spectie: give me a U

(19:14:39) spectie: give me a D

(19:14:43) firespeaker: U D

(19:14:49) spectie: give me an M U R T

(19:14:52) firespeaker: M U R T

(19:14:59) spectie: U D M U R T !!!!!

(19:15:03) firespeaker: U D M U R T ! \o/

(19:15:11) spectie: \o/ \o/ \o/

(18:36:18) spectie: macedonian, bulgarian, {serbian, croatian, bosnian, montenegrin}, slovenian, english, ...

(18:36:37) krvoje: hey, our language is not a regex :p

(17:15:49) spectie: what's the frst rule

(17:15:52) spectie: of turkic language grammars ?

(17:17:16) spectie: the first rule is

(17:17:27) selimcan: hargle bargle

(13:40:56) spectre: there is a special place in hell

(13:41:04) spectre: for linguists who design orthographies with the ' character

(13:41:53) spectre: (a) letters, (b) punctuation

(13:41:58) spectre: and ne'er the twain shall meet

(21:39:17) firespeaker: but it's worth seeing what the people who've spent time on this think

(21:39:23) spectie: aye

(21:39:25) firespeaker: "particles" is probably not the way to go

(21:39:41) spectie: "particle" stands for "defeat"

(13:11:51) spectie: қ:ғ {а}: ь: {☭}: >: {S}: ы: ь:ь {n}:н ы: __HFST_TWOLC_.#.

(13:12:00) spectie: uh oh, communism in our transducer

(13:17:45) selimcan: Фонологи всех стран, объединяйтесь! :)

(15:54:50) spectie: is that real dutch

(15:54:52) spectie: or joke dutch ?

(15:55:06) spectie: sometimes it is difficult to tell the difference ... :|

(06:07:50) spectie: firespeaker, lol, i got home drunk last night at around 1am, and i wake up now and i find a terminal open with a lexc file for karakalpak

(06:07:56) spectie: firespeaker, i don't remember writing it :|

(20:17:26) firespeaker: I mean, when this movie was filmed, none of the audience probably knew any better

(20:17:37) firespeaker: they'd never seen gypsies or heard russian anywhere else

(20:17:37) spectie: aye

(20:17:39) spectie: wait

(20:17:47) spectie: probably _now_ the audience doesn't know any better ;__;

(11:51:13) Francis Tyers: do you have christmas lists in america ?

(11:51:42) jonathan: uhm

(11:51:44) jonathan: maybe?

(11:52:00) jonathan: I feel like there's some extra piece of pragmatics attached to what you have in mind

(11:52:49) jonathan: like, a wishlist that you might show your relatives before Christmas?

(11:52:54) Francis Tyers: yeah

(11:52:56) jonathan: yeah, sure

(11:52:59) Francis Tyers: that you hang on a tree

(11:52:59) jonathan: we have that :-P

(11:53:02) jonathan: whoa

(11:53:02) Francis Tyers: for the christmas robin

(11:53:03) jonathan: wait

(11:53:05) Francis Tyers: to collect

(11:53:08) Francis Tyers: the christmas robin

(11:53:12) jonathan: wtf man

(11:53:14) Francis Tyers: takes the list to father christmas

(18:01:23) firespeaker: (isn't lexc a mess?)

(18:01:26) sushain: yes

(18:01:30) sushain: all those newlines

(18:01:43) firespeaker: it's amazingly easy to work with though

(18:01:47) sushain: I can´t believe spectie didn´t add braces :P

(16:47:29) spectre: ok, now you have a twol rule

(16:47:34) spectre: that is {A}:a / {A}:e

(16:47:54) spectre: but your twol rule has to combine with this {A}b{A}bbbbbb{A}

(16:47:57) spectre: when does it finish ?

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(16:51:11) spectre: firespeaker,

(16:51:16) spectre: DON'T TRY AND MENTALLY PROCESS IT

(16:51:26) spectre: YOU WILL GO INTO AN INFINITE LOOP

(16:52:13) fpetkovski: he's gone

(16:52:14) fpetkovski: too late

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(16:57:07) firespeaker: ^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C

(16:57:08) firespeaker: phew

(20:59:11) spectie: weFFIOJEoiweg;oiejg

(21:06:20) spectie: oijoij

(21:09:23) sushain: er

(21:09:24) sushain: hi spectie

(21:09:27) sushain: are you ok?

(21:21:17) spiegelian: sushain, it's a code, you have to break it

(21:45:07) sushain: spiegelian: hmmm

(21:46:07) sushain: 'weFFIOJEoiweg = went to the bar. oiejg = had some beer. oijoij = going to bed now

(13:29:23) Фрэн: now i just need to get the irish converted into IPA

(13:29:29) Фрэн: so i can convert it into finnish

(18:48:18) jonathan: a lot of Mongol stuff in China is hand-written

(18:48:30) Фрэн: or in CLSEFJSGHXDHT

(18:48:31) Фрэн: script

(19:05:24) spectie: you could remove the 'in langs'

(19:05:31) spectie: what else would TR vowel systems be identified in?

(19:05:32) spectie: buckets?

(19:05:50) spectie: insurgent groups/

(19:06:01) spectie: water supply?

(12:56:11) jonathan: this rewording is very minor but does seem to get rid of one of the issues at least

(12:56:39) jonathan: I'm not positive, though; I have to force myself to misunderstand my own thoughts to even evaluate whether it's maybe fixed :(

(12:56:53) Фрэн: well, i can help with that

(18:54:03) khannatanmai: I guess if we struggled with ambiguity in daily life, language would be pretty inefficient

(18:54:13) spectie: khannatanmai: welcome to firespeaker's world ;DDD