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[link] heard: 10 December 2003
[edit] added: 10 December 2003

Jonathan: "I showed someone this picture and they said 'Whoa, how did you get Brandeis not to look like a post-apocolyptic wasteland?'"

Mark: "But you didn't show them this one. The background looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland."

Jonathan: "But there's Volen in the background."

Mark: "Yeah, that's like the post-apocalyptic command centre."

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