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[link] heard: 17 January 2004
[edit] added: 17 January 2004

(06:02:06) Kesuari: (there is, i think, a certain amount of regular voicing and devoicing of stops and /tS/~/dZ/ (which might better be called /c/ and /J\/ even if that isn't their phonetic rendition) IMD. I have heard that it's not uncommon in AuE for voiced stops to be totally unvoiced and unvoiced aspirated, though i'm not sure if that's true for me.)

(06:02:44) [me]: that's like Werner's law

(06:03:03) Kesuari: or the second sound shift of german.

(06:03:19) Kesuari: which is like Werner's

(06:03:40) Kesuari: also fits into this neck of the woods better e.g. chinese and many other asian langs

(06:05:30) [me]: English:PIE::Australian English:Proto Germanic

(06:05:33) [me]: or at least in 2000 years

(06:06:02) [me]: lord help us if Middle English becomes proto-World

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